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IWAI's Discussion Forum and Mailing Lists

Since 1999, the IWAI has operated two email mailing-lists. From 2008, this has been joined by a web-based forum. The forum can be found here.  The forum archive (1999 to 2007) can be found here
All of the lists below are open to members and non-members of IWAI. 
Contents:

About our Forum and Mailing Lists:

  • The News Updates Mailing List is a one-way list: you will get messages from it (usually not more than one or two a week) but cannot post messages to it. It provides navigation information (e.g. lock closures), marine notices, announcements of events, notice of consultations and other waterways news. (These items are also sent to the subscribers to the Waterways mailing-list.)


 

  • The Waterways Mailing List /  Waterways Forum is a lively discussion group, where everything and anything of waterways interest is up for debate. The number of posts/messages per day varies, but has ranged from 1 to 40, the 'norm' being ~10. Personal ads (e.g. selling your own boat) are permitted but trade ads are not. Have a look at recent posts.  You can subscribe to a combined email/forum offering or only to the web-based forum.   The web-based forum also supports RSS feeds.  This orange button can be used to quickly view the last few posts to the forum with a single click. 
    There are some limitations in the interoperability of the email system and the web-based forum.  These limitations are explained in detail here.  There are also additional guidelines for email users to help keep the web and email in synch!


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  • As an alternative to subscribing to the waterways mailing list, you can subscribe to the Waterways Mailing List Digest. It includes all postings made in the previous twenty-four hours to our waterways mailing list, but with the digest, the emails are grouped and sent to you daily at 04:30 (Irish time) - delivered in time to be enjoyed with the breakfast. The postings are sorted in chronological order within topic.  The Digest is a good option to consider for dealing with the potentially large number of emails that greet us after a few days absence from our computers. You will need to read the guide to reading Digest emails in order to configure your computer to read the digest. 
    Note that if you wish to subscribe to the digest as an alternative to the waterways mailing list, you will still have to unsubscribe from the waterways mailing list.  Please note also that the digest cannot be read if you use eircom.net's webmail client. It can be read by other web-based email such as hotmail and yahoomail.

    Note that with the web-based forum, we support a method to allow you to quickly view the last few posts (the RSS button).  We expect to see this digest option fade away!

 

Subscribe:

There are four steps to the subscription process:

We'll ask you to select your subscription options.  You must agree out Terms and Conditions and Usage Guidelines, which aren't onerous!.  We do ask you to tell us a bit about yourself.  Leaving everything blank will lead to delays in the subscription process - we're human, and will probably not bother processing "Joe Bloggs" who'se email address is erfnjk543@hotmail.com !  Finally, there are lots of automated computer programs out there that spend their lives(?) subscribing to fora such as this for the purposes of advertising/promoting porn, scams, harvesting email addresses etc.  Hence, we have a little test to distinguish between humans and computers!

Unsubscribe from the lists;

Simply send a blank email to the list to which you are subscribed by selecting the appropriate link below. Two things to note (1) The email must originate from the email address under which you are subscribed and (2) the email must have some text in the 'subject' line - this last requirement is due to a bug in the list administration software provided our web-hosting provider.  Note that you will receive an email with the subject line "Confirm Unsubscribe from xxx@iwai.ie" - You MUST REPLY to this email to complete the unsubscribe process.

To unsubscribe from Waterways Mailing List, click here.

To unsubscribe from Mailing List Digest, click here.

To unsubscribe from the News Updates mailing list, click here.

Guidelines for posting to the Waterways Mailing List

The Waterways mailing-list is a forum where everything and anything of waterways interest is up for debate. Please contribute your knowledge and or post your observations or queries. There are no daft questions (really!).

Email and a web-based forum are no different from other forms of communication, save that your words are likely to be read by a lot more people. Those readers include the subscribers to the list, many of whom you won't know, anyone to whom a subscriber may choose to forward some item of information and any visitor to our forum or archive. The laws of libel and defamation apply here just as much as to other forms of communication, so please avoid all defamatory remarks.

Additionally, please conduct all dialogues in a courteous manner - there are many users of our waterways with many differing perspectives on life and waterways issues. Haranguing others and tit-for-tat sniping is discouraged.

Please send emails in plain text, not HTML. Do NOT try to send attachments (e.g. images) - you are clogging up ~400 people's email boxes.

Note that when replying to an email posted by 'Joe Bloggs', the reply will go to the mail list, not just the poster. Be very careful. On more than one occasion, an email has been sent in error to the list instead of its intended recipient.

Please also consider whether it would be more appropriate to send your email to someone personally rather than the mailing list as a whole, before sending!

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Terms And Conditions

By subscribing to one of our mailing lists or forums (henceforth forum), you agree to the following Terms And Conditions.

The purpose of this list is to provide a forum for the discussion of matters generally relating to inland waterways and in particular (though not exclusively), the inland waterways of Ireland.

You agree that:

  1. You will not use the list to propagate any material that might be considered vulgar, illegal, fraudulent, defamatory, threatening or abusive.
  2. You will conduct email exchanges in a civil and courteous manner.
  3. You will not use the list for any commercial purposes with the exception of an occasional short announcement of the availability of a significant new product or service or as a direct response to a query from another subscriber.
  4. You will not use the list to send "Spam" or "Junk Mail" to other subscribers.
  5. You will not send (or allow your computer to send) viruses or other harmful messages to the list.
  6. You may not sell or otherwise commercially exploit any of the information propagated by the list. (Save where that information is clearly identified as being already in the public domain).
  7. You will identify yourself as the source of any submissions you make and not attempt to hide your identity or to impersonate another.
  8. IWAI is not responsible for the accuracy of information submitted to this list. Information submitted to this list is the opinion of the subscribers themselves and may not represent the official position of the association. Technical information may or may not be accurate.

Furthermore:

  1. This list is provided as a service and a resource to its subscribers by IWAI and the association makes no guarantees as to the availability, reliability or continued operation of the service.
  2. Breach of any of the above rules will result in you being removed from the list.
  3. Interpretation of these rules is at the discretion of the list moderator(s) and the list moderator's decision is final.
  4. Censorship: Please note that since the contents of emails and posts will be indexed by search engines (although we could also exclude them…), we may take a more proactive role in monitoring the content of posts.  i.e. we may decide that potentially defamatory, rude, incivil, untrue, unkind etc.remarks have been made or indeed that a discussion is descending into some morass of incivility and we may as a result delete “offending” posts or threads.   We ask for your forbearance if we appear to be too trigger-happy or heavy handed.  We have the best interests of the IWAI in mind (even if our actions as moderators appear to you to be wrong!).

    Note also that our non-censoring of a particular post does not infer any agreement or endorsement of the opinions expressed.

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Limitations in Interoperability between Forum and Email

Limitations for posts made via email

  • email attachments (documents or images) will NOT appear on the web-based forum.

  • there may be modifications to the formatting of emails.

  • any email addresses that appear in the email will be obfuscated before being posted to the web-based forum.

  • emails can take up to 10 minutes to appear on the web-based forum.

  • With email, we tend to include the email to which we are replying.  With a web-based forum, we tend to only make the point we wish to make without including the earlier post (since it typically is visible on the same web-page).  We therefore try to strip off the earlier email from a reply.  Essentially, if we see a succession of five dashes "-----", then we cut the incoming email form that point onwards before posting it to the web-based forum.

Limitations for posts made via the web-based forum and sent to email subscribers.

  • attachments (documents or images) including embedded images will NOT be forwarded to the email subscribers.  Note however, that each email will contain a URL, allowing the email reader to click on the URL to read the post and its attachments.

  • Formatting (bold, italics, smileys etc.) will be stripped from posts before being forwarded to email subscribers.

  • there may be modifications to the formatting of emails.

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Additional Guidelines for Email users

Do I need to change the way I use email?  Well, a little more discipline will help the forum look more attractive!  So we’ve a few simple “rules”.

  1. If you want to start a new discussion (or thread), chose a sensible description for the “subject line”;
  2. When you reply to a post, please don’t modify the subject line.
  3. You can continue to include the earlier email in your reply.  If you do, we’ve introduced some pretty crude rules to chop redundant material from incoming emails (to the forum).  Essentially, we chop off anything that follows:
    1. 5 dashes “-----“
    2. 5 underlines “_____”
    3. and a few more.
  4. A result of rule 3 above is that there’s no point in putting a comment at the end of an earlier email.
  5. For those of you with fancy signatures, please put a few dashes (5) at the end of your email – that way, we chop off the signature before posting to the forum – alternatively leave it there.
  6. Generally, you will want to keep your email address away form any forum.  All instances of the symbol ‘@’ are replaced by ‘[AG]’ when emails are posted, so the text “contact Joe at joe@bloggs.com” will appear as “contact Joe at joe[AG]bloggs.com”.

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