Paul
I know the thread was the boat on the sluices but I had recalled the Big white boat by the quay in the pics. That was the only reason I cross ref. the thread.

John D.
MY Birgos

Hi Donal

That sounds very like a confession;-)
The mystery is solved, at last.
We finally know the identity of the odd heavy metal owner who refuses to allow boaters to raft up outside!
That has been the subject of much conjecture over the last few years!
Normally, when one of the big boys arrive in a harbour, the effect is similar to the installation of a new floating pontoon. They typically moor in such a way as to occupy the minimum possible space on the quay wall, then proceed to allow all and sundry to moor to them!
There has been one owner of a large vessel, however, who consistently refuses to do this and, over the years, there have been many queries as to the legality of his actions, not to mention angry mutterings about the damage to the good reputation held by 60'ers in general!
Are you saying you're him???

Duncan

Can't be Donal Duncan, he always puts the kettle on even before you have tied up to him. One is always made feel welcome and assisted to tie up alongside. I have yet to find a barge where this welcome is not there, certainly always feel free to come alongside the 41 anytime, it is one of the great advantages of being a barge owner because of all the people one meets.

Les 41M

Anyone ,want to buy a barge? All those tourists. Les Saunders giving tours of my boat and his own. A sort of the "before and after". Can't even have a lie on when he's around . " Get UP, here's a woman who's granny skippered a barge in 1927" Or "this fellas next door neighbour's cousin got ran over by a barge".
Then all those tourists from Sh and Ree,think that just because you're a barge they can tie up to you,foc.
I've enough friends. I dont want to meet any more. Do you hear me Les? Then that fella Donal forcing cups of tea on you and home made apple tart. I'm sick of it.
PJ

Am I missing something here?

This boat has been moored at Meelick Quay for about 4 years - presumably
in flagrant violation of mooring rules - it then sinks, causing some
form of fuel spill, is refloated but then restored to its old space
because ownership can't be determined.

Are we losing the plot?

Surely it should just be put up for sale & if the 'owner' objects, tell
him (or her!) the proceeds are being used for the clean up!

Terry


Posted at: [www.iwai.ie]
Peter Kingston wrote:


Up-date as of this morning;

Boat is now refloated, but still in situ at Meelick. Still some
"confusion" about who the owner is. Next development, if any, who knows?

Regards

Peter

Duncan: That sounds very like a confession;-)
The mystery is solved, at last.
We finally know the identity of the odd heavy metal owner who refuses to allow boaters to raft up outside!
That has been the subject of much conjecture over the last few years!

Morning Duncan hope all is well up there on the twisty bit

Sorry to say you are still looking for that Phamtom
This Barge has very strict open doar policy, those who refuse Tea are trown overboard

I must say I know of no barge skipper who behaves in the manner you describe, but I have witnessed plenty of plastic boat skippers behaving that way, especially at dusk when a hire boat arives in the harbour, they develop a blank stare like a pig pi--------

Trust that you find your phantom, if you send on a discription of the vessel we might be able to help you


Donal

I can't see how a boat of that size can be towed up-stream to Banagher at the moment. Last week, the current was running at nearly 4mph at Shannon Grove and near enough at a couple of other spots. Is there anything on the navigation capable of handling this monster against that?

Regards

Peter

What about this one ? CAT C7 320HP ?



Or this one. Twin CAT 3056 205HP each

Yep Colin, I think you have me there! Either of them should shift it. Are they on the Shannon?

But I'd say they'd still have to work hard. (And I bet they cost!!) The white boat must be 50ft and 30 tons, not including any water in her I'd love to see them getting her around the bends at Shannon Grove! Still........if the rain holds off..who knows?

Regards

Peter

Hi Donal

Yes, I figured you for one of the familiar type all right!
You just left the door open for a bit of ribbing when you admitted to taking up 50% of the available space!
I've never had the pleasure of meeting the "phantom" myself, but he warranted a couple of threads about his behaviour, a couple of years back.
I think, though my memory - never good anyway - is not what it was, he was moored in Haughton Shore, or it might have been Aghalane Mooring, when he gained fame!
Having only ever met the more usual heavy metal owner, I tried to defend him and was swiftly corrected!
Has anyone met him recently?
Has he mellowed at all?

Duncan

Hi Peter, the Inis Muillan is in Terryglass finishing off the new jetties. she leaves next week for Meelick to install the weir barrier, so would be actually on site. Power is no problem for a tow, it was what she was designed for.

Les 41M

Duncan

If we are all talking about the same 'phantom' barge - it was sold a while back - may by now have a new name - I understand through others that new owners have been barge owners for a number of years and are very hospitable.

So we can once again say - all barges are renowned for their hospitality and as you stated "They typically moor in such a way as to occupy the minimum possible space on the quay wall, then proceed to allow all and sundry to moor to them!" And then the party starts.

Beth
Aqualegia

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Peter Kingston
Yep Colin, I think you have me there! Either of them should shift itthumbs up. Are they on the Shannon?
But I'd say they'd still have to work hard. (And I bet they cost!!) The white boat must be 50ft and 30 tons, not including any water in hereye popping smiley I'd love to see them getting her around the bends at Shannon Grove! Still........if the rain holds off..who knows?

Yes Peter, Colins being devious, there both WI's new work boats.!!

Dave

Peter,I know somebody who towed his barge with a 5hp outboard on a inflatable.
Many barges came down the canal under outboard power. The old Bolinder engines were only 15hp.
So I dont believe that extraordinary power is needed to tow that boat to Banagher. Based on my own experience of owning a 46 ft steel boat with twin engines [25 years now] I'd say that boat is less than 20 tons.I'm not including extra water in that opinion.
Cheers, PJN

Any typical single engine cruiser could tow her even through the grove.

OceanFroggie

Dave wrote...

> Yes Peter, Colins being devious, there both WI's new work boats.!!

Colin>>>>Me, devious ? I think either of them would move that boat OK. A
few years ago Chang Sha suffered failure in the oil-feed to her just coming
up to Shannon Grove. The river was running about 2 knots I'd say. 68M came
to the rescue and was easily able to move both boats upstream with her
venerable 120HP S6. For the big white boat, if I had my choice, I think
what I would do would be to use the little tug and rig it up as a push tow.
Cut down the resistance that way.

Colin
GMY Chang Sha (now with a PRM gear-box!)

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pj norris
Peter,I know somebody who towed his barge with a 5hp outboard on a inflatable.
Many barges came down the canal under outboard power. The old Bolinder engines were only 15hp.
So I dont believe that extraordinary power is needed to tow that boat to Banagher. Based on my own experience of owning a 46 ft steel boat with twin engines [25 years now] I'd say that boat is less than 20 tons.I'm not including extra water in that opinion.
Cheers, PJN

Ocean Froggie; "Any typical single engine cruiser could tow her even through the grove"

Well, I'll probably be eating my words, but I'm going to stick my neck out and suggest that neither of the above would be likely to succeed in this situ, if the flow continues at the rate it was a couple of weeks ago. Back then, it was pushing through at more than 4mph AND pushing diagonally towards the bank in several places.

Some years ago, 68M and crew kindly rescued another Barge which couldn't make way up-stream with IT'S Bolinder engine (She was in fact going backwards). The combined power of both engines still only had them threading water at the grove. And the current wasn't as strong as recently.(But maybe Gerry has since re-engined?)

Having said that, if the flow has eased, I'll probably discover that she got to Banagher being towed by "Breakaway" under reduced canvas, with the help of a single paddle

I'll be down thataway tomorrow, so I'll check the current situation.

Regards

Peter



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Peter Kingston
Having said that, if the flow has eased, I'll probably discover that she got to Banagher being towed by "Breakaway" under reduced canvas, with the help of a single paddle
Regards
Peter

Funny you should say that Peter - with a bit of a SW blow coming in and all.
Now if I can get my A frame into place in time.....
John
Towing Vessel (Sail) Breakaway

Any hire cruiser could tow her against the flow at Shannon grove. It's only bad for few hunderd meters in the shallows. It might be slow for a bit but doable.

Yawn z z z . . . Time to put this thread to sleep

OceanFroggie

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OceanFroggie
Any hire cruiser could tow her against the flow at Shannon grove. It's only bad for few hunderd meters in the shallows. It might be slow for a bit but doable.
Yawn z z z . . . Time to put this thread to sleep

Oh Great Closer of Threads
Mayhaps Thou Suffereth from "Easily Bored Syndrome"?

I for one shall only ever post on threads that Thou starteth.
And shall stop posting before Thou finisheth it.

(If I realiseth in timeth. )

John
SV Sarcasm