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Map date?

Posted by Michael Slevin 
Map date?
22 January, 2008 00:34
Folks,

One for the heritage minded.
I've posted an extract of a map shouing the Grand Canal Basin and its sorrounds. I'm trying to put a date on it.
A nice feature of the map is that the McMahon bridge across the Grand Canal basin is shown as open! All the canal bridges are named.
Its post 1928 (the Liffey tunnel is shown (completed March 1928).
Can anyone tell me when the bit of the Grand Canal basin between Grand Canal St. and the railway was filled in (to become an abbatoir and later Accenture offices and now ?)
It also refers to a "patent slip" at Ringsend - is that still there? or in use? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_slip)

Map extract is at
Its "Bacon's Large Scale Plan of Dublin" priced 1s6d.

Michael
Re: Map date?
22 January, 2008 20:07
Michael, this is all fantastic information. Please keep sharing it.
What is/was the Liffey Tunnel? Google doesn't seem to know anything
about it.
Conor.


On 22 Jan 2008, at 00:34, Michael Slevin (IWAI) wrote:

> Folks,
>
> One for the heritage minded.
> I've posted an extract of a map shouing the Grand Canal Basin and
> its sorrounds. I'm trying to put a date on it.
> A nice feature of the map is that the McMahon bridge across the
> Grand Canal basin is shown as open! All the canal bridges are named.
> Its post 1928 (the Liffey tunnel is shown (completed March 1928).
> Can anyone tell me when the bit of the Grand Canal basin between
> Grand Canal St. and the railway was filled in (to become an
> abbatoir and later Accenture offices and now ?)
> It also refers to a "patent slip" at Ringsend - is that still
> there? or in use? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_slip)
>
> Map extract is at
> Its "Bacon's Large Scale Plan of Dublin" priced 1s6d.
>
> Michael
>
Re: Map date?
22 January, 2008 20:24
Misery Hill caught my eye. Not just for the adjective but because this area
was always very flat in my memory Perhaps there once was a hill there,
though hard to imagine, it being so close to the river.

[indigo.ie] has the reason for the name. Wonder do the
new residents of the area know the history. Would this be akin to building
your house on top of an old Indian Grave Yard as in the apochryphal American
horror stories ? Will there be ghosts a-haunting ?

While searching for info on this I came across a Wiki entry claiming this
area is now known as Sodo (A la Soho in New York I suppose)? New one on me.
are the yuppies still extant ? With the notorious caustic Dublin sense of
humour I think they are on a dangerous one there.

Paul Mc Cann


On 22/01/2008, Michael Slevin (IWAI) wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> One for the heritage minded.
> I've posted an extract of a map shouing the Grand Canal Basin and its
> sorrounds. I'm trying to put a date on it.
> A nice feature of the map is that the McMahon bridge across the Grand
> Canal basin is shown as open! All the canal bridges are named.
> Its post 1928 (the Liffey tunnel is shown (completed March 1928).
> Can anyone tell me when the bit of the Grand Canal basin between Grand
> Canal St. and the railway was filled in (to become an abbatoir and later
> Accenture offices and now ?)
> It also refers to a "patent slip" at Ringsend - is that still there? or in
> use? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_slip)
>
> Map extract is at
> Its "Bacon's Large Scale Plan of Dublin" priced 1s6d.
>
> Michael
>
>
Liffey Tunnel
22 January, 2008 22:42
Hello Conor,
For the definitive stuff on the Liffey Tunnel, you have to refer to "Our Good Health" by Michael Corcoran -
Michael was good enough to give two talks to the Dublin Branch last year - see [dublin.iwai.ie]
He is the ideal speaker for a smaller group, totally passionate and engrossing.

Anyways, he devotes page to the tunnell in his book - in short a plan for a railway tunnel was conceived as far back as 1864, but again in 1918 for supplying electricity from Poolbeg to the North Walll area.
In 1925 a tunnel was designed to carry water mains and power cables (and no pedestrians as originally planned). McAlpine won a contract inn 1926.
The tunnel was finished in March 1928 and is 831ft long and 7ft in diameter.
Its 107-110ft deep.
It carries a 24" main, 15" pressure sewer and power cables.
According to Michael, 25 of the 70 workers at some stage or other suffered from the bends.

For those of you who appreciate that manholes are more than annoyances on the roads, the book will have plenty of interest.
Michael
RE: Liffey Tunnel
23 January, 2008 10:58
Also see [books.google.com] - page 49 in the
preview. Another book for anoraks.
Re: Liffey Tunnel
23 January, 2008 11:33
Conor,
This anorak already has it on order - in fact the whole series of seven
books can be got at
[www.thomastelford.com])
Michael
Re: Liffey Tunnel
23 January, 2008 13:52
Orered the Irish one. It looks interesting. Hope it reads o/k The Telford
site is arcane.


Paul Mc Cann


On 23/01/2008, Michael Slevin (IWAI) wrote:
>
> Conor,
> This anorak already has it on order - in fact the whole series of seven
> books can be got at
>
> [www.thomastelford.com])
> Michael
>
Re: Liffey Tunnel
23 January, 2008 13:54
Nice pic of the first lock on the Circular Line.....Where's 94E gone
though...???

M(W&W)F



Conor Nolan wrote:

>Also see [books.google.com] - page 49 in the
>preview. Another book for anoraks.
>
>
>
>
>
Re: Liffey Tunnel
23 January, 2008 14:00
for the forgetful, Mick'r referring to

/M
Re: Liffey Tunnel
23 January, 2008 16:52
Re: Re: Liffey Tunnel
23 January, 2008 17:03
Nope, That's a bridge that becomes a tunnel under the Phoenix park.
see [en.wikipedia.org])
/M
Re: Map date?
23 January, 2008 23:12
The 1948 OS survey doesn't have the dock filled in - if that's any help.

I have an old Bacon's too - 1 shilling and no Liffey Tunnel. So that dates the map for me.

I was going to suggest another book of interest to this topic - Brady and Simms' Dublin Through Space & Time - when I came across this info from the publishers ...

[www.fourcourtspress.ie]

'Dublin Docklands Reinvented' may be interesting.



/Conor
RE: Map date?
24 January, 2008 17:19
Just noticed a red covered Bacon's map of Dublin just went for E51 on eBay.
Wasn't you was it? From 6c to E50 in 70 years - is that a good rate of
return?
Re: Map date?
24 January, 2008 17:32
Lots of them for sale at the book fair - going rate €4 to €15
Michael
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