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Poll No. 4
for all boat-users of the inland waterways of Ireland
(poll ended 31/12/05)
There are rumours that Waterways Ireland are debating the
introduction of an annual registration fee or license
fee. What do you think is a fair charge for use of
Ireland's inland waterways - Currently Grand and Royal
Canal users can pay €126 p.a. as an annual fee allowing
unlimited lockage and bank mooring. |
Poll No. 5
for IWAI members
(poll ended 31/12/05)
Why did you join and remain a member of IWAI? |
Poll No. 6
for users of the inland waterways who are NOT IWAI
members
(poll ended 31/12/05)
You are a user of the inland waterways of Ireland - the Shannon,
Erne, the Canals, Corrib, Slaney, Bann etc. Why
have you not joined IWAI to date?
If you were previously a member, please take a moment to
tell us why you left, in the comment box below.
(PS - you can join by clicking
the red button at the top of the screen). |
aj
- 14/11/2005 15:28
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W.I. has been told it will have to be self financing in the future.It's current spend {€23,000;000} would have to be covered by current user's.If current user's numbered 20,000 the budget to be covered by each would be €1,150. Unless W.I. have unknown sources of income user fee's look like the only source of income.
By the by {€2,000,000} of the spend went on overtime.
Is there anyone outthere willing to pay this kind of fee.
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Dave McCabe
- 14/11/2005 11:40
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irrespective Mick/Keith , a Barge takes up a huge ammount of waterway resources compared to a 23 foot freeman. yet the engines could be very similar. Top speed is irevelant and would penalise small low cost runabouts etc. GRP 30-40 foot cruisers represent the vast vast majority of boats on the shannon. The charging system must primarily be fair to them. Length is the only real practical basisi for charging as ( in general) the price of the boat is directly related to it, ( but I've no problem with barges getting a special dispensation).
Dave
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geraldine
- 10/11/2005 17:53
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| W.I. must be really amused to see what boaters think is a fair price to pay, 20 years ago 100 pounds was very hard to find for using the canal, compared to 126 euros now, if W.I. are going to up the charges will they dredge the Canal so that barges and other deep old relics, forgive me H.B.A., can use the canals in some comfort. Also, private marina customers never seem to mind paying large fees. Maybe W.I. would like a slice of this cake.
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Mick Farrell
- 02/11/2005 01:53
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Thats not entirely true Dave. For example:
On the Shannon:
Given 2 equal length boats, the one which can travel at 20 knots can use twice the resources of a boat which travels at 10 knots. It will also cause more wear and tear to the navigations.
On the canals:
A boat which displaces 5 tonnes will use 45 cubic meters more water than a boat which displaces 50 tonnes, at every lock!!
PS 2nd comment but I only voted once!!
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noel
- 12/10/2005 16:52
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| What is needed here is fairness and value for money. There are retired folk, pensioners, disabled folk, and folk with inexpensive boats who simply cant afford significant fees. One persons 37ft boat may have a value 8 times more than another older 37ft boat, so length on its own does not give a fair idea of ability to pay. Value on its own may also not be fair as a pensioner on a lower income may have a large family boat bought years ago when they were working. This issue is more complicated to resolve fairly than meets the eye. WI need to think this one out well. If the fee is low than complicated formulae wont be needed to resolve such issues.
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Keith Nolan
- 12/10/2005 10:07
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| I disagree totally with Dave McCabe, barges were around long before Mr McCabe's type of cruiser, length is only one consideration for a tax depending on the type of craft!
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stephen
- 11/10/2005 20:28
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| I agree with Noel there's no such thing as a free lunch.
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Dave McCabe
- 11/10/2005 18:02
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| length can be the only deciding factor , as its length that uses resources, ie berths, lock space
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John
- 03/10/2005 12:52
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| No matter what we say a charge is going to be introduced and all users of the waterways canal and river will pay the same. The fee has been there for years on the canal but the shannon has had no fees bar lock and bridge, there are more facilities on the shannon now its time to start paying for them.
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Keith Nolan
- 03/10/2005 07:19
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| Boats should be charged on boat power. Hopefully this will discourage some owners who have totally unsuitable craft for our inland waterways!
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M
- 02/10/2005 13:14
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'No taxation without representation' We should have input into how WI spends the money if we are to be charged a fee.
M
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Noel
- 01/10/2005 08:59
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| There's no such thing as a free lunch. Users enjoy it more than people living 100's of miles away, so users should pay, not just the general tax payer - fairness!
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mick byrne
- 30/09/2005 09:19
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introduce a national cert / leicence based on ability which lasts for 5 years and then must be re- sat or
introduce a marine nct this would increase safety also and it might stimilate business for yards also.
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Mick Farrell
- 30/09/2005 01:35
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| "No taxation without navigation" to borrow a quote.
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